New York City - Discipline and behavior problems in America's public schools are serious, pervasive and are compromising student learning. They are also driving a substantial number of teachers out of the profession. These are some key findings from a new national study of teachers and parents which found that while only a handful of trouble makers cause most disciplinary problems, the tyranny of the few leads to a distracting and disrespectful atmosphere. Teachers in particular complain about the growing willingness of some students and parents to challenge teacher judgment and threaten legal action.
According to a new report by the nonpartisan, nonprofit opinion research organization Public Agenda, teachers too often must operate in a culture of challenge and second guessing that is affecting their ability to teach and maintain order.
- Nearly 8 in 10 teachers (78%) said students are quick to remind them that they have rights or that their parents can sue.
- Nearly half of teachers surveyed (49%) reported they have been accused of unfairly disciplining a student.
- More than half of teachers (55%) said that districts backing down from assertive parents causes discipline problems in the nation's schools.
The study, Teaching Interrupted: Do Discipline Policies in Today's Public Schools Foster the Common Good?, was prepared for Common Good, a bipartisan legal reform coalition dedicated to restoring common sense to American law.
Proposed solutions selected by teachers and parents include stricter enforcement of existing rules of conduct, alternative schools to help chronically disruptive students and limiting parents ability to sue schools over disciplinary decisions.
Rowdiness, disrespect, bullying, talking out, lateness and loutishness - these misbehaviors are poisoning the learning atmosphere of our public schools, said Public Agenda President Ruth A. Wooden. At a time when the achievement stakes for students have never been higher, the fact is that in school after school, a minority of students who routinely challenge legitimate school rules and authority are preventing the majority of students from learning and teachers from teaching.
The present legal environment undermines order in schools by enabling students and parents to threaten a lawsuit over virtually anything, said Philip K. Howard, Chair of Common Good. The legal system must strike a better balance between the claimed rights of individuals and the legitimate interests of society as a whole.
Teachers Think of Leaving
Virtually all teachers (97%) said good discipline and behavior are prerequisite for a successful school. And virtually all (93%) said it is the public schools' job to teach kids to follow the rules so they are ready to join society. Yet nearly 8 in 10 teachers said their school has students who should be removed and sent to alternative schools. In what the report terms a perhaps the harshest testimonial to the problem, 52% of the teachers surveyed reported their school has an armed police officer on school grounds.
More than 1 in 3 teachers said colleagues in their school had left because student discipline was such a challenge, and the same number personally considered leaving. Many complained about being more in the crowd control business than in teaching. The gum chewing the yawning aloud or putting their feet up on the desklike they didn't know that was inappropriate, said one New Jersey teacher.
More than half of teachers said that behavior problems often stem from teachers who are soft on discipline because they can't count on parents or their schools to support them. And 85% believe new teachers are particularly unprepared to deal with behavior problems.
Taking Parents to Task
Parents, too, agreed (78%) that schools need good discipline and behavior. But 82% of teachers and 74% of parents surveyed felt that parents' failure to teach their children discipline ranked as one of the biggest causes of school behavior problems.
But parents are worried too, with 20% of parents reporting that they have considered moving their child to another school or have done so already because discipline and behavior was such a problem.
Restoring Order From Alternative Schools to Limits on Litigation
- More than 6 in 10 teachers (61%) and parents (63%) strongly believe that strictly enforcing the little rules sets a tone so that bigger problems can be avoided. Another 30% of teachers and 25% of parents support this idea somewhat. (Total support: 91% teachers; 88% parents)
- More than half of teachers (57%) and 43% of parents also especially liked proposals for establishing alternative schools for chronic offenders, with another 30% of teachers and 32% of parents liking this idea somewhat. (Total support: 87% teachers; 74% parents)
- 70% of teachers and 68% of parents strongly supported the establishment of zero-tolerance policies so students know they will be kicked out of school for serious violations, with another 23% of teachers and 20% of parents indicating they supported this idea somewhat. (Total support: 93% teachers; 89% parents)
- 69% of teachers said finding ways to hold parents more accountable for kids' behavior would be a very effective solution to the schools' discipline problems, with another 25% saying they think it would be somewhat effective. (Total support: 94% teachers)
- 42% of teachers and 46% of parents strongly supported limiting lawsuits to serious situations like expulsion, with another 40% of teachers and 32% of parents liking this idea somewhat. (Total support: 82% teachers; 78% parents)
- 50% of teachers and 43% of parents also strongly approved of removing the possibility of monetary awards for parents who sue over discipline issues, with another 32% of teachers and 27% of parents approving somewhat. (Total support: 82% teachers; 69% parents)
Discipline in Special Education
The vast majority of teachers (94%) believe that treating special education students just like other students, unless their misbehavior is related to their disability, would be an effective solution: 65% of teachers say this would be a very effective solution, while another 29% consider it somewhat effective. But teachers said this is not happening now: 76% of teachers agree that special education students who misbehave are often treated too lightly, even when their misbehavior has nothing to do with their disability.
Dont Forget Common Sense
While acknowledging the need to deal with persistent trouble makers, based on this survey, teachers were very concerned that these children be retrieved, not forgotten. Nor, the report said, did teachers want gum chewing to be treated as the equivalent of a capital offense Both teachers and parents acknowledged that schools are doing a good job on the most serious offenses, such as those involving guns or drugs.
Still, according to Teaching Interrupted, Even as the pressure to raise standards and improve student performance mounts, it is apparent that much time and opportunity to learn is being lost. Finally, the fact that so many of the nations middle and high schools feel they need an armed police officer on their grounds is a sobering reality whose cost may be more than can be measured in dollars.
According to Public Agenda President Ruth A. Wooden, Time and again, Public Agenda research has shown that a safe, orderly school environment is a fundamental concern of parents and teachers. Yet this issue has been given short shrift by policy makers and by the very schools of education that send new teachers out unprepared for the realities of today's classrooms. It's way past time to focus on solutions to this impediment to educating all our children.
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The findings in Teaching Interrupted are based on two national random surveys; a mail survey of 725 public middle and high school teachers and a telephone survey with 600 parents of public school students in grades 5 through 12. The surveys were preceded by six focus groups. The margin of error for both surveys is plus or minus 4 percentage points.
Common Good is a bi-partisan legal reform coalition dedicated to restoring common sense to American law. Its board is composed of leaders in a wide range of fields: former government officials, including Griffin Bell, Newt Gingrich, Eric Holder, George McGovern, Diane Ravitch, Alan Simpson, and Richard Thornburgh; current and former university presidents, including Tom Kean, George Rupp, and John Silber, and numerous other leaders in education, healthcare, law, business and public policy. The Chair of Common Good is Philip K. Howard, a lawyer and author of The Death of Common Sense and The Collapse of the Common Good.
Public Agenda is a nonprofit organization dedicated to nonpartisan public policy research. Founded in 1975 by former U.S. Secretary of State Cyrus Vance and Daniel Yankelovich, the social scientist and author, Public Agenda is well respected for its influential public opinion surveys and balanced citizen education materials. Its mission is to inject the public's voice into crucial policy debates. Public Agenda seeks to inform leaders about the public's views and to engage citizens in discussing complex policy issues.
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I would like school officials to consider that the escalating discipline problems they are facing could actually be rooted in the disenfranchisement of their students caused by exposure to the injustices that are inevitable when the diciplinary process is conducted without sufficient protection against wrongfull conviction of the innocent.
As an adult, I find it frightening to imagine being subject to the school systems diciplinary process as it stands today. I have witnessed first hand the improper collection of evidence, such as the sending of a single photograph to an eye witness for identification, interviews of witnesses that are not documented as to questions asked or answers given but rather boiled down to a statement by the interviewer of who was implicated and on what charge.
Following the collection of evidence, it is passed on to the school official who will decide guilt or innocence and impose corrective action; however, this is usually the same person who collected the evidence in the first place. The final step that could allow at least some form of oversight is that of the right to appeal. Once again, in most instances, there may be no right for review, or the review is conducted by the same official or the original officials supervisor.
So, in this system we have one individual as detective, prosecutor, judge, jury, appelate court, and executioner!
I have no doubt that some individuals tasked with this duty actually do it properly so as to exact justice. I doubt that these individuals are great in number and I suspect they are dwindling through attrition.
From my experience the individuals tasked with this proceedure are quick to convict all. Willing to justify their acts by any means necessary, including lies, fabrication of evidence, misapplication of policy/proceedure, loss of conflicting evidence, manipulation of witnesses, violation of the accuseds right to due process and discriminatory application of justice.
What can be done? We have no choice but to impose the proper proceedures for justice that are well known in our judicial system. Failure to do so will inevitably lead to a generation without respect for the judicial system and the subsequent lawlessness spiraling out of control.
You have used a lot of big words, but your ideas are, to use a very simple expression, downright cockeyed. The lack of trust and faith in teachers and administrators to deal with discipline during the school day is what is undermining school discipline! What child in his/her right mind is going to admit that he/she did something extremely bone-headed and disrespectful at school when a parent asks, "What happened?" I have been at the copy machine in our school office while a child lied and lied and lied about what he had done and the parent, who would never take someone else's word over that of their own child, bought the whole story. As a teacher in the building, I had seen this child create chaos in the lunchroom, the hallways and in the office. But his parent thought her little angel could do no wrong. Whatever the teacher said, other children said, whatever -- they were all making stuff up and trying to persecute her baby. Oh, please. These other people were actually THERE and saw what her child had actually done. She was at home or at work, but somehow she knew what happened better than they did? And by the way, there are no executioners in the school office. Children receive detention, in or out of school suspension, or for the worst offenses, expulsion. There is no guillotine in any American school that I am aware of. So enough with the drama and the overuse of 4 syllable words. I know plenty of big words myself, but they don't make your weak argument any stronger. Parents need to let teachers and administrators do their jobs, including enforcing the code of behavior in school. Children who always get away with everything because parents want to blame everyone else in the world except the true culprit ARE a generation without respect for any rules anywhere. They already are lawless and spiraling out of control. Too many students walk around with a sense of entitlement and a belief that teachers can't really "do anything" about their disruptive behavior. Some of these students think it is OK to punch teachers, or to punch security guards who have come to the classroom to remove them because they have punched a teacher or another student. And sadly, these are the same kids whose parents defend them no matter what and blame everyone else.
The last 10 - 12 years of my 36 year public school tenure I witnessed a really major change in student's classroom behavior - for the worse. You live in a rediculous state of mind that teachers are willing to say and do anything to pick on a student. Of course you would not admit it but I am certain you or someone close to you, a child perhaps, are the jerk that drove some teacher to the brink and some administrator to "fabricate" behaviors that resulted in some sort of discipline. The USA public school systems are cheating thew masses of children who want to learn, or at least parents make certain they behave, by allowing disruptions in the classroom. I cannot believe that the parents of well behaved students have not demanded from their school systems an environment of unenterrupted education.
The only way to prevent further decay (behavior gets more outrageous each year) is to quit being fearful of a few disruptors parents through "political correctness" (fear of law suits), (ie: Fort Hood Masacre, 2009). and stand up for the rights of the majority, the rule abiding student.
Classroom teachers must be empowered to remove any disrputive student and be protected from lazy administrator's accusation of "weakness". Teachers are not supposed to be cops or referees or anything other than teachers. Parents have to be conmtacted by administrators only and rules of justice enacted without fear of a parental challenge. If we cannot trust our teachers or school officials the system will not survive
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